Episode Transcript
[00:00:02] Speaker A: Hello and welcome to today's episode of the Intuitive Femme Network. I'm your host, Nancy Cooper, and today we have special guest Helia, who is going to teach us the secret to manifesting our desires without the hustle. Stay tuned.
All right.
Awesome. Welcome, Helia. Tell us a little bit about yourself.
[00:00:32] Speaker B: Hi, Nancy. Thank you so much for having me, first of all. Well, my name is Helia, I live in Toronto, Canada, and I'm a manifestation coach.
Sometimes, depending who I'm talking to, sometimes I say mindset coach because so many people don't understand manifestation and they think it is woo woo, which is not. And we're going to get into that. But yeah, it's just, it's. I think I found my passion and my life purpose to teach people how to manifest their dreams, how to go after their dreams, and how to live their dream life. Because I believe if you have a dream and a desire, it is absolutely yours. Otherwise you wouldn't be even thinking or wanting it. So my. My days are like, I'm fully dedicated on what I do and it's not work to me. It is fun. And yeah, I love that.
[00:01:38] Speaker A: Tell us about kind of how you got started. Like, how did you even get into becoming a manifestation coach?
[00:01:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I love that question. It's so funny. Sometimes in life we go after things we have, like certain hobbies or interests, but we never think. Like, that's going to be my career.
So as long as I remember, I've always been very curious and it's in my human design, if you know anything about human design.
Yeah, my profile is 1 and 3, so it is like always seeking, always learning, always being curious. So I've always been interested in personal development and the mind and spirituality. I remember even When I was 17, 18 years old, I used to read USO's books. And then I got. I found Abraham Hicks on YouTube, obsessed with her way.
[00:02:37] Speaker A: I feel like that's like the gateway drug for all of us in the spiritual realm.
[00:02:41] Speaker B: It was for me for sure. And I was obsessed with her, like watching her YouTube videos every single day.
And then obviously the movie the Secret.
But it was just all of these things were in the background and I was doing different things, different stuff, moving, immigrating to different countries, different jobs, different businesses, different relationships. And these things were always with me. So everything else changed on the surface, but on the background, now that I think about it, I've always been interested in these things. So two main categories, which I think they're kind of the same spirituality and personal development.
[00:03:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:29] Speaker B: And then I was in real estate a few years ago and I was having a really hard time making money. I was having a hard time attracting clients. I was hustling and grinding like a crazy woman. I was door knocking in cold winters of Toronto. If you know Anything about Toronto, minus 20 degrees. Door knocking Snow up to my knees.
And I was not getting the result that I wanted. And it was so frustrating because I was looking at all the real estate agents and it seemed like they're not even working as hard as I was. And they were, some of them, not all of them, some of them were getting great results selling multi million dollar homes.
And I got a few real estate coaches, they helped a little bit. I started getting clients here and there. But still it was like it was. Something was not right. It was too much hustle and grind and I really honestly started to hate it.
And just one day by chance, accident, luck, which there's no such thing as that, I was, I was asking and the universe showed me. I found Bob Proctor on a, on a YouTube video, in a video. They were promoting a live event called Paradigm Shift.
And I joined. It was a free event for five days or seven days and I was hooked. I. The first time I saw Bob was in the movie the Secret. But I never took any of his coaching, didn't know his teachings, his wisdom, nothing like that. But I learned so much during that few days of free live event.
And then at the end of the event they promoted their coaching program which was a six month coaching program.
And I was, it was so clear to me that I have to do this. This is the missing piece for me. It is all because I'm taking the actions, I'm doing the things, yeah, inside that is blocking me. And Bob program was all about that. Like what is going on inside of you? What is your belief system?
What is that subconscious programming that you've inherited since childhood and through your upbringing that is contradicting with what you want consciously.
And I was like, that's it, I need this. And anyways, long story short, I took the program that year. I became an award winning agent in my office. And that was 2021. It was Covid time. So the market was not, was not doing good. And I, that year I became an award winning agent and I fell in love with his material so much that I found myself talking about that with people more than real estate.
[00:06:24] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:06:25] Speaker B: And then I realized, okay, this is, this is my thing. I found my thing, this is it. And I quit real estate and applied to become A coach invested a lot of money, which was scary. But the best decisions are the ones that we are actually scared to do because that's another version of you. If you, if it's easy to make a decision, it means you're, you're still behaving as your current self.
[00:06:56] Speaker A: I love that. Yeah.
[00:06:57] Speaker B: And if you do that, you get the same results as yesterday and years before.
[00:07:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:03] Speaker B: So that scary decision was the things, that was the thing that changed everything for me. I became a coach, I got my license and that's all I do all day, every day now.
[00:07:15] Speaker A: I love that. So what's shifted for you like from what you learned in that, that course or over that, that five or seven day challenge that took you from hustle struggle mode into becoming the award winning realtor? Like what, what would you say really shifted in that time?
[00:07:37] Speaker B: Yeah, great question. So things didn't shift within that five to seven days. It took me a six months or actually close to eight months.
So as I said, I've always been reading books, studying personal development and spirituality. But my results, even when I was an employee, when I started real estate, which is you, you have your own business in real estate, you can make as much as you want. But I was still making the same amount of money that I was making when I was an employee.
[00:08:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:10] Speaker B: So it's all the, the, your belief system within. And what shifted was during that six months coaching, the mentorship, someone who hold me accountable every single week and worked with me on my mindset, understanding what are my beliefs, what are, what is my belief system really taking time to think about how do I feel and think about myself?
For example, one of the things that comes up a lot with my clients and I feel like majority of people, when we are not getting the things that we want, one of the most important things is the feeling of lack of self worth.
[00:09:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:02] Speaker B: We think we're not enough. We think other people can do it, but I cannot do it. And I remember my dad, few years ago when I wanted to leave my corporate job to start my business, he was so against it.
I love him, but it's just a different mindset.
Keep, keep your job, your pension plan. You know, it's so funny. It's a, it's a completely different paradigm. And when I, when I moved to real estate and I was having a hard time, he was saying that yeah, you should have kept your job. And not everybody can be a business owner owner, those people are special.
So we get this. And imagine when, when you are, when you are A child, you're getting these kind of messages all the time.
[00:10:00] Speaker A: You don't remember all the time.
[00:10:03] Speaker B: You get it because this is, this is what you teach. So that's the subconscious programming. Then the shift was, it doesn't. So I, I realize it doesn't happen on your own. The shift doesn't happen on your own. You need someone to hold you accountable. You need someone who looks from outside, looks at your blind spots. We all have blind spots.
[00:10:26] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:10:28] Speaker B: And then continuous work, at least for six months, at least, over and over again, new ideas that replace old, limiting programming and operating system.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. This is so important because, you know, you and I, we do similar work, right? But we are very different in that work. You are definitely more focused on the actual manifestation of something into the reality. And for me, my focus is that rewiring, reprogramming of the subconscious mind. And so the way that I've always looked at it, or as I've started understanding it when I started channeling the program that I, I have, it's such a lie that we're told where it's like, look, if you're just positive, if you just wear enough crystals in your bra, if you just hope enough, then this miracle outcome will happen. Or if you just hustle enough, or you just do, do, do. And it's like everybody keeps slamming up against a wall, right? They're like, why is this not working? And you're right, they go into this energy of comparison. They go into this energy of why everyone else, not me?
And at the end of the day, it's not because they're not wearing the right crystals in their bra or not saying the right mantras enough. It's because something got implanted in their subconscious mind sometime some way that is in contradiction with what they want. And until that can be invited forward and brought into conscious awareness. This is why we continue to struggle. This is why we continue to cycle. And it's the reason I say like we can't out manifest our subconscious programming, right? So somebody's going to look at that and say, well, why aren't you just teaching? No woo, woo. And like, you know, let's, let's say the mantras, let's have the positive mindset, let's do the visualization.
But the thing is, all of those are important still.
Plus doing the mindset work, understanding where these beliefs are, where we're out of alignment, and being open to the feedback that the universe provides us, where we are out of alignment. I feel like so often people fall into this. And I know I've done it. I don't know about you, but I've done it where I see stuff and I'm like, gosh, you know, why does this keep happening? Or that feels so unfair. Or why are they having success and I'm not? I'm doing the same things, like, why is it working for them and not me?
We have to be mindful to shift out of that outlook and into the recognition that every single thing is feedback. Everything, it's all feedback. And until we're open and willing to see it and say, okay, clearly this works, or people want what I offer, that's not the problem.
So now I have more information to help me understand what could be right. It's like shifting that paradigm. Instead of saying, well, I'm a victim, we're saying, okay, well, what kind of feedback is this showing me so that I can shift out of this to have my manifestation? I feel like that is definitely the first step in all of this when it comes to creating a new reality.
[00:14:14] Speaker B: Such great point. Yes, it is. That shift of perspective from. For me, why me? Why is this happening to me? To really understand that nothing is happening to you, no one is punishing you. Everything you. You said it beautifully. Everything is a feedback. It's happening for you so that you can look inside and see what you need to change.
Because the whole world is a reflection of your consciousness, is a reflection of what's going on inside of you. And there is so much power in this because then you're not a victim of things happening to you randomly. You're not a victim of other people, situation, circumstances.
I can only imagine. It's so frustrating living that way because you never know who's gonna do what to you. But when you change your perspective and you understand that really the whole purpose of this life.
I always love the concept of zooming out.
Not getting so narrow in the problem that we are facing. Zooming out, really going out of your body, out of the planet Earth, out to the universe.
[00:15:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:34] Speaker B: Looking from far perspective of God's eye view the universe. Whatever you believe in. What is the purpose of life? Why am I here? To make money? To pay my mortgage or to buy things? No, you are. Your essence is. Is a soul. Your essence is infinite intelligence. It is energy.
Living in a human body, experiencing this physical world. And that soul wants to expand.
[00:16:06] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:16:07] Speaker B: The whole universe is always expanding thing.
And how do you expand?
It's the exact same thing as the laws of our physical body.
Let's give this example. If you sit on your couch and you don't go to the gym, you're not going to have six packs. It's not going to happen, unfortunately.
But how do we expand? How do we grow our muscles? We literally break our muscles lifting heavy weights. They break you to turn them to, in order for them to become stronger and grow.
The exact same thing for your soul, for your personality, for your character.
These things that are happening for you, they're happening so that you can grow through going through them.
[00:17:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:06] Speaker B: And so many times in like hard times in life. I remember there was a news few years ago that someone got stuck under a car and the mom, which was an elderly lady, lift up the whole.
You've heard that?
[00:17:24] Speaker A: Yes, I've heard about this. Yeah.
[00:17:26] Speaker B: And people were shocked. They realized afterwards and they, they asked her, how did you do that? And she says, I have no idea. So that alone shows. We have so much. Bob always said we have reservoir of talent and ability inside of us. And there's only through those hardships, setbacks, that we're going to bring out the other version of us, which is wiser, stronger and, and better. And that's how we grow.
[00:18:05] Speaker A: Exactly, exactly. It's through the contrast that we desire more. And that's what then causes that, that drive, that pull to say, well, how, how do I change this? How do I create more? That is what manifesting is. It's creating into our reality something new. Because we've seen things that we don't like or that we don't want, otherwise we wouldn't want anything. Right. If we were just in a space of homeostasis and everything was fine, everything was good, we would never desire for more, which would mean that we would never create or call into being new things, which would therefore mean we don't expand. And so I, I completely agree with you with that. That's something that I say where people are like, you know, I just don't know why I'm here. What's my purpose? What is this? And I'm like, you're literally an extension of the macro organism that is the universe. And it has one program, it has one thing that it is designed to do, grow. That's it just like anything else. Like a tree you plant, if you leave it alone and it has the, the soil to get its nutrients and sunlight and water, it will just continue to grow forever. Right. Because that, that's its program and that is what we are, we are meant to grow. And that growth as a soul looks very different from one person to Another, maybe one person we're looking at that we compare ourselves to. Maybe they already had a really tough lifetime that they went through. And this time it is supposed to be a little bit easier for them. Maybe this time, you know, you said, I really do want to grow the most I possibly can. Give me a big challenge and set me so far back to reach it. Because I know that I can do it because I'm that far involved in my soul journey that I can do that. And it's going to be so expansive for that lifetime. Like, we choose these things when we come in.
[00:20:13] Speaker B: Yeah, we do choose these things, but we don't remember. So that's when we have to rely on our faith and belief. And by faith, I don't mean religious faith. I mean faith and trust that you are more than your physical body. And I love how Bob says your spiritual DNA is perfect.
Faith and trust that there is perfection within you. And that's where the manifestation starts. Actually, it starts from what you said, the contrast. So you experience contrast, you know what you don't want, then you know what you do want. And then you develop that faith, unwavering faith, that if I want this, it means my soul wanted. It means absolutely possible for me now. It's just a matter of time. It's just a matter of time.
[00:21:10] Speaker A: Yeah. I love that.
[00:21:13] Speaker B: Yeah. And of course, those I. I love all the manifestation practices. And there's so many different things that we can do. But as you said, it is a combination of manifestation and subconscious programming. Subconscious programming is a big part of what I teach as well.
And people think, I don't know different. Different perception about manifestation. But manifestation simply means you attract whatever you are.
What does it mean?
So it is not what you want.
Because everybody wants more money. Everybody wants bigger homes, more vacations, freedom, love, success, happiness. But do they get it? Not necessarily. So it's not about what you want. It is about who you are.
And what I mean by that is it has to do with the law of vibration. One of the laws of the universe is the law of vibration. Actually, they talk about. When they talk about manifestation, they talk about law of attraction.
They talked about it in the movie the Secret. But law of attraction is the secondary law, is the law of vibration.
So how do we attract.
That's one thing. The big thing that is missing from the movie the Secret because so many times people watch it and they go, create the vision board.
[00:22:49] Speaker A: Yeah, this.
[00:22:51] Speaker B: This important piece. And they get frustrated.
So it's not about creating vision boards and images and Saying affirmations and attracting the things that you consciously want.
It is about who you are being. And who you are being is the same thing as the law of. So let me explain the law of vibration.
The law of vibration. Actually there's so many different laws in the universe and looks beautiful.
But one of the primary laws is the law of vibration, which means everything vibrates, nothing rests.
[00:23:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:33] Speaker B: Literally live in an ocean of motion.
And that's science. This is not woo woo like you. You put anything like a piece of crystal under a microscope, it's not solid, it is moving. Everything is moving. Everything is based on vibration.
[00:23:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:51] Speaker B: Human beings the same.
[00:23:53] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:23:53] Speaker B: Have a vibration. There is photography. There's a specific way of taking pictures of human bodies. It's called kian photography. They take a picture of you and they see your aura. So it's literally like energy around you and it's different colors depending how you feeling.
[00:24:15] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:24:16] Speaker B: I've done that in a. There was a. There's a retreat center here in Toronto. They have so many different things. One of the things they did was this caran photography. And they took a picture like they're, they're purple. Some other areas they're green, they're blue.
What is this energy? It's just energy of your vibration.
And so based on your vibration, you're attracting things, people, situation, circumstances who are in the same level of vibration.
[00:24:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:50] Speaker B: Okay. So let's say there are infinite levels of vibration which is. And let's say you're here, you attract everything which is in harmony on that level. The amount of money, the amount of fulfillment, happiness, your relationship. Let's say you move here and then you attract everything here.
The other way of explaining vibration frequency is the way you feel.
So feeling is a conscious awareness of vibration.
When you say I feel good, it means you're consciously aware that you're in a positive vibration.
When you say I feel down, it means we are consciously aware that we are in a low vibration. So it's the same thing. Feeling, vibration, frequency is the same thing.
So this is really important. But, but as you said, it's one part of the manifestation.
[00:25:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:00] Speaker B: So it is not like feel good all day, every day and you're going to manifest everything. If you feel good all day, every day.
But in your subconscious you have a belief that it is hard to make money.
[00:26:19] Speaker A: Right.
[00:26:21] Speaker B: That's what you're gonna manifest.
[00:26:25] Speaker A: Feeling real good, broke. Like real good and broke.
[00:26:29] Speaker B: There are people who live like that, but you don't have to. You can change that.
So I love that we like, we talk about both worlds. It's manifestation. Feel good. Make sure you're staying positive. Make sure you have a big dream that is exciting to you. And every day you think about your dream, you visualize it, you get into that feeling. You see yourself there already become that future version of you, which is another important thing that I.
Self image or identity. But also work on your limiting beliefs because if it's contradicting. Yeah. Anywhere.
[00:27:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And I think that that's a big. Oh gosh, a big thing that is missed so much with the workshops for like doing dream boards and the vision boards and the different things like that. It's like there's almost like this concept of that's enough. Right. It's like do this and just by having these pictures up that you see every day, it's going to suddenly like make this stuff appear in your reality. And that's just not accurate.
[00:27:39] Speaker B: That's.
[00:27:40] Speaker A: That's not true. It's there as a reminder of who you are striving to become. It is, it is an inspiration. It is a motivation to help you stay focused on your goals. Because we have to become the version of us, like you said, that can have those things. So just putting pictures up is not enough. It's looking at them and saying, I'm so frustrated right now, now with what I'm doing. And I just feel like giving up. And I like, ah. Because let's be real. We're human. Right? And then we look at that vision board and we're like, nope, that's meant for me. That is mine. I'm gonna have it. Take a deep breath. Okay. I've got this. Right? It's a. It's a recalibration tool more than anything else. It's not a like magic, like woo woo thing. Hey, put this together and it'll just poof, magically appear in your reality. It's. That's not what it is. It's not it.
[00:28:49] Speaker B: At the end of the day, your belief system and that subconscious programming override everything.
[00:28:54] Speaker A: Absolutely.
Hands down. There's no way around it. There's no way around it.
[00:29:04] Speaker B: Vision force. No amount of stage, no amount of.
[00:29:08] Speaker A: None of it. None of it. And it.
[00:29:11] Speaker B: That's affirmation. Yeah.
[00:29:13] Speaker A: It's such a. Honestly, it's such a sad thing to behold because how many times have you seen this where someone gets really excited about the concept of manifestation and they go all in with it and they're like, I'm going to visualize. I'm Going to do the vision board, I'm going to do this, and I'm going to get all positive. And then one of the worst thing happens. They actually manifest what they want. Why is that so bad? Because they didn't do anything subconsciously to get in alignment with actually feeling deserving or worthy enough to have that. So what happens? Call it the rubber band effect. Right. Every time I feel like I'm making progress, things just seem to go back to where they were. Every time I feel like I'm making more money, something happens and I just go back to where I was. Every time I find a good partner, something happens and it doesn't work out.
This is why.
This is why. Because that program that is saying have that is still there. So maybe you've like. It's like the thermostat setting, right? You know, we set it at 72. You open the windows, you're fan and air in. You're like, yeah, I'm gonna work really hard, change this temperature. And then you think you can rest because you finally got the temperature that you want. But then what happens? The AC kicks on because the thermostat is set. And it's like, now it's cold in here again. It went back to what it was. And I worked so hard.
Yeah, like, that setting has to be changed. And then the manifesting, that's why we watch people. It's like, oh, my God, every time I turn around, they're manifesting something new. That's been one of my clients and it's been a conversation that I've had with another client because she's like, I'm watching this person and like every time I see they're posting new opportunity, new thing, new miracle, new this, and I'm not seeing that.
And it's. It's not because what they're doing isn't the same, because it is. They're both in the same program. But it's because one has gotten to a point where they believe they're worthy of those things. The other one, we're still working on that.
[00:31:35] Speaker B: And we all are on our path. And. And what is more frustrating is when we compare ourselves to others.
[00:31:42] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: It's. You never know. Exactly as you said. You never know their. Their past history in this life. And, and you never know what they were, they've been through in past lives. And you never know. You don't know their journey. You don't know their soul assignment. There is more competition, and we have developed this feeling of fomo, especially with social media. We look at social media, we feel like everybody's getting ahead and why things are not working for us. And you never know what is exactly happening in terms of energy, soul assignment and all these things. And we need to have a little bit more compassion for ourselves. But, yeah, it's absolutely the case. I wish they would make a second movie after the Secret and talk about belief system and subconscious programming, because I had the exact same conversation with someone a few months ago. And it is sad, as you said, Nancy, because she said she's struggling in her business and she has. It's like her passion, her baby, but it's not growing.
And she said, I think and I believe manifestation works for some people, but not for everyone.
[00:33:06] Speaker A: Works for some people and not for everyone.
Yeah, it's a law of the universe. It for everyone.
[00:33:14] Speaker B: It's like saying, I think gravity works for some people, it doesn't work for others. It's exactly the same thing because it is working.
But as you said, they went through it somehow with like, just very superficial things creating vision boards or just ran just repetitively saying affirmations without understanding that subconscious programming. And now they're disappointed. And I look at their social media and I couldn't. I unfortunately couldn't convince them to join the coaching. And I'm looking at their social media still. Same situation, same struggle. And it is sad because at some point those people unfortunately gonna give up on their dream.
[00:33:58] Speaker A: Yeah, well, let's be real. A lot of them already have, even though they're pretending like they haven't. Yeah, I mean, that's. That's a lot of people. It's like they. They feel that it is a dream. It's just something there to distract themselves from the unhappiness and lack of satisfaction they're feeling in life. They don't actually believe it's something that they truly can experience.
It's not a goal of theirs. It's a distraction from their suffering.
[00:34:31] Speaker B: How do we. How can we help people to understand that their dreams is theirs and it's not just a distraction?
[00:34:40] Speaker A: That's a.
I think that that is one of the. The mysteries of the universe. Because I, like, I've thought about that for myself and I've had to look back over my own experience and I think that, that there are some things that we just can't teach someone else. It's like they have to get there on their own. Because I know for myself, when I was going through different belief systems, different struggles, different times that I just thought, you know, if only people would help me or if only they understood how hard this was for me. And like, if they would just give me a hand up, I could. I could do this. And it. It wouldn't have mattered. I can see that now. It wouldn't have mattered because the same things that were creating those situations would have still been there. It's again, like the thermostat, right? Even if someone had given me a million dollars, I would have figured out some way to go back to ground zero. Because what had been creating ground zero, the program was still there.
So the only way for that to change is for us to come to that recognition and decision to say, what am I doing? What am I doing here? This is a reason. It's something I teach with marketing. So with my offer, actually, it's. It's similar with Bob. I. I certify people in my offer. So I have certified practitioners and I teach them, like marketing and different things like that. And one of the things I teach them with the marketing and with content because let's be real and transformational coaching. This is a huge challenge for a lot of transformational coaches. They don't know how to create content because all the marketing gurus and all this are teaching the fake stuff and stuff that just feels completely out of alignment in our system.
And one of the things that I talk about is something that I've created that I refer to as manifesting marketing. And what that means is a lot of people, you know, on their journey, they start with the problem, right? They're in the pain point. And this is where a lot of people say market to the pain point, talk to the pain point. And that's going to get a lot of people in pain, right? And that usually creates, especially in transformational coaching, some really, really tough clients for us, like, it's challenging. And so what I teach is everyone has this moment where they move from that space of pain into what am I going to do about it now? What am I actively going to try to manifest, right? So I'm no longer in this space of just I'm being victimized. I'm in pain, I'm hurting, I'm frustrated. I'm not happy to this moment where it's like something shifts, right? It's like this happens. It either happens or it doesn't for people. And I don't know what that catalyst is. That's like something happens. It's an event, it's a mindset. It's sometimes you just wake up. Who knows if it's in your astrology? And a planet moved or whatever it is. Like, I don't know. I don't know what it is, but something moves and they decide, I'm ready to actively try to do something about this.
We talk to those people.
We talk to the people that are in a space of what am I trying to manifest, what am I trying to create? Because those are the people that are ready to invest in themselves, that are ready for solutions, that are ready to be helped, that are actually ready to put in the effort. And this is why it's hard for us as transformational coaches when we are using the old, like, pain point marketing and going at those pain points because we find a lot of people that really just aren't ready. They're not there yet to where they have found that space within them to recognize I can do something about this. And I just need to be shown what that is. I don't need someone to fix it for me. I don't need someone to come in and. And make it better for me. I just need them to show me how I can make it better. That it's a very different type client and it's a very different audience response when we, when we shift our messaging in that way. So to go back to the original question, it's like, how do we get them to. To know that they have that power?
I think it's just by us reminding them through our content, honestly. And that's again, part of that manifesting marketing strategy that I talk about is speaking into life. This is possible for you. You can create this. This is what you're meant to experience. This is what your life is supposed to be like. Like you said, if you have this dream and desire, it's because it is meant for you. Eventually that will connect, but for some, that's gonna be really triggering. Right? They're not gonna like that at all.
How dare you. If only you knew how hard my life was. Right? Yeah.
[00:40:06] Speaker B: I'm sure my content triggers a lot of people.
[00:40:10] Speaker A: I know. And that's one of the. One of the points that we just have to get to where it's like, well, okay, it's not my audience. Like, I can't help you right now. I've had people do that. I've had people come and they're like, I unfollowed you X amount of months ago, and then something shifted and now they're like, I want to, like, I need to work with you. Because whatever, like, they just got there. They got it. And that's okay.
[00:40:37] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yeah. It's again, as I said, it's. We are all on our own unique journey and our own unique timing. There is no right or wrong. There is nothing even. Like I recently realized, there is no even such a thing as wasting time. We are where we are, and it is where we are supposed to be.
We are always where we are supposed to be. It's if. If I'm not where I want to be, means there's more work done where I am right now. Yeah, when I do the work, I will be there at some point.
[00:41:14] Speaker A: I like that perspective. Because we, as women, we fall into this hustle culture, right? Thinking, like, I have to be like a man. I gotta hustle, I gotta grind, I gotta work hard. I gotta trudge through the snow, knock, knocking and ringing people's doorbells, you know, to. To prove my worth, to. To earn what I deserve, you know, and it's like, that's just not.
That's not the case, you know, when we are in that feminine energy of, like, you're saying, allowing and understanding, like, hey, I have this vision. I know that this is meant to happen. I wish it was happening now because I want it, because it's burning in my belly gut, and it's like setting my soul on fire. I have this craving to experience this thing, but I need to recognize that because I'm not experiencing it yet, there's more work to do where I am. And I think that that's such a powerful, important reminder because that's a helpful way for us to shift out of that hustle mode and remind ourselves. Like, look, just because we're allowing ourselves to rest and take in what is happening in our current reality and allowing it to teach us and give us the feedback that we need does not mean that we're being lazy. Does not mean that we're giving up. It doesn't mean that we're not still going towards our goals.
It just means we are right. It just means we're human. This is just the experience.
[00:42:48] Speaker B: And it's so different for men and women, the way we work.
It seems like in the society, in corporations, in the entrepreneurship world, it's seems and it looks like we're doing the exact same thing as men are doing.
We are not supposed to function like men. Our whole system is different. Our energy is different. Our bodies, our emotions, everything is so different. At the same time, we are taking actions like men. Of course we're going to be exhausted. And I was talking about the law of vibration. And you are attracting based on your vibration.
[00:43:33] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:43:34] Speaker B: If you are hustling and grinding. You're messing up with your nervous system. And I'm saying all these things because I've been there.
[00:43:43] Speaker A: Yep. Me too.
[00:43:45] Speaker B: Your nervous system is stressed. You're tight. You are tired. Guess what? You are attracting to you.
[00:43:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:54] Speaker B: Full clients.
[00:43:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:57] Speaker B: Deals. Not going through more of the same vibration.
Nothing is gonna work that way. We need to respect our body. Our nervous system is so important. Regulated nervous system is what is going to help you attract more fun, more ease, more love, more money.
Regulated nervous system.
[00:44:22] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like the cart before the horse kind of idea. Right? And we hear that saying, people are like, well, I'll be able to relax once I have more money or once I have this or once I have that. And it's like, honey, it's the opposite. Like, you have to learn to regulate yourself because how often do we do this? I talk about this a lot with, like, even in our brain, right? We've got our amygdala, which is the lizard hind brain, that is purely programmed for one thing. Survival. It is not there to make decisions. It is not there to have higher consciousness to reason. This is why when people are trying to create, you know, like, people talk about governments or when people are trying to manipulate. They keep you in fear. Right. Even, like scammers, when they're calling and saying, hey, you owe the IRS this much money or, you know, whatever, they. They want you in that part of your brain in fear because you can't reason there. You can't connect to higher consciousness, which happen in the prefrontal cortex. And so if we're constantly operating from a state of stress and fear, we are. We are literally trapped in time. Like our. We cannot manifest anything new from there because it's just about surviving.
It's literally, like, I say this, it's like we're. We're frozen in time. This is why people are like, I'm so stuck. Stuck. I'm so stuck. I'm so stuck. Of course you are. Because you're completely disconnected from the part of your brain that can show you what to do next.
[00:45:57] Speaker B: Yeah. And unfortunately, so many people. Would you agree? Majority of people are living in that fear fight or flight. Stuck, freeze.
[00:46:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:08] Speaker B: I would say, like 80%.
[00:46:10] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. Yeah. And they're making decisions from there, too, just from fear. How many times have you done that? Like, before you've done this work? I know for me in the past, with relationships with my business, with different things. When we make those rash decisions because we're reacting from survival mode and fear, it does a new result that we desire, right? It just repeats the same things over and over and over again. That's why it's called self sabotage. Like we do this and because we're operating from fear, we're just thinking, I have to survive in this moment. Instead of being able to practice that pause and say, what is the outcome that I desire from this? Instead of just reacting, I can sit here and be intentional. What outcome do I want? And how can I try to still create that from where I am? That is very different than just sabotaging. Oh, but they're gonna leave me. So I'm just gonna leave them first and then wonder, why am I always alone and don't have a great boyfriend? I don't know. Boo. Why, why can't you manifest that dream, man? Because you keep telling all of them to go because you're afraid they're gonna leave you.
[00:47:34] Speaker B: Survival system is running the show, baby. And that's why. That's an another reason why I fully believe it is so important to daily, daily be in this kind of environment, even either with a mentor or a coach or mastermind groups. Because if we are not daily, like I know I've been in this environment for almost five years now as my full time business before that, on and off for my whole life, full time. And I know if I stop for maybe just a few days or a couple of weeks here, that is so dominant in the whole society.
People, family, friends, news media, that fear and scarcity. Like if I am not nourishing my mind with the truth of these kind of teachings and if I'm not in this kind of environment, I, I'm gonna be screwed. I'm gonna be even after five years being a coach.
Because it is dominant, it is the dominant energy of our society. And I don't care wherever you are, the whole with government control people by keeping them in fear.
So you want to change your life, you have to be in a different environment. And I don't know how many of you, Nancy, or your followers, do you have people in your family and friends who have the same mindset?
[00:49:15] Speaker A: I do, I do. I'm, I'm fortunate. I'm definitely more of the ringleader, I would say, in this type of stuff. But I, I am very fortunate that in my family and, and in my friend circle, I have people that are aligned with the concepts. They're not as in deep with it. I mean this is my career. But they respect the mindset, they respect the concepts, they recognize them. And so we're able to have conversations about that and we're able to be mindful about how our relationships are. Like, this is another thing, too. I was having this conversation with a guy friend of mine a few days ago about even my own perspective of, like, dating has changed so much as a. As a single woman at 38 years old, where being programmed for so long with the whole, like, Cinderella syndrome, right? Where it's like, the man should just come in and save me, and we should be able to just behave however we want in our trauma, and they should just deal and be whatever it is that we need. You know, like, we're taught this. We're like, we think that this is just what we're supposed to get. And then we wonder why we attract narcissists, right? Because at first they're gonna love bomb us and tell us, like, yeah, like, I'm. I'm going to fix everything.
[00:50:42] Speaker B: I'm going to be you.
[00:50:44] Speaker A: Yeah, like, I've got you. And then, oh, boy. Then the real ride starts, right? But as we move through the reprogramming of our subconscious mind and heal these attachment tendencies, these triggers raise our emotional intelligence. All of these different things we start looking at, even, like, romantic relationships very differently, where it's like, I don't want somebody texting me every day all the time, like, wanting to check in and talk about, like, what shoes they're wearing and what they're eating for, you know, like, I don't have time for that. Like, I'm a single mom building an empire. Like, I want to go on a date and hang out, check in, maybe send funny, like, reels and, you know, like, just have that sense of security where it's like, I know you're busy doing stuff. I know I'm busy doing stuff. Just because we're not talking every day or every hour or whatever. Like, we still know, like, everything's good. We enjoy our company and our time, but it's like, there's this concept of, oh, right, When I meet somebody, they're going to become my emotional support person, and they're going to attract me and become my dopamine hit so I. I don't have to sit with my unresolved crap. And then when they're not what I want them to be and they're not fulfilling the fantasy, I can't deal and I get triggered and blah, blah, blah, blah, right? All of this, like, falls apart, and it's like, gosh, there's just no good people out there. And there's no this. And I just can't find a, a good man or I can't whatever. And it's like whoa. Like our whole concept of what is healthy or what like co creation is and what relationships are and what even like a business relationship with a client should be. It's. It's all confusing.
I. I guess I could say because it's, it's not being taught to us in a way that would be from a regulated position or place. It's always for what is that gonna do for me? Instead of what is this going to inspire me to become like you know relationships, they should be co creative. Right. Two people come in, what can I offer and sew in and also receive so we both grow together. And it's like so much of this is going in with what can they do for me? How can they fulfill this fantasy? And then they think that well, I didn't manifest.
Didn't manifest properly. And it's like well, what were you really trying to manifest? A dream partner or a distraction?
Sorry, I got off on a tangent on that one.
[00:53:48] Speaker B: No, I love that. And I feel like I want to talk about relationships now but I know that we don't have time. So maybe the next episode we can dive deep into relationships. Because so many questions as you were talking, so many questions came to my mind and so many things that I want to talk about because that's all other subject.
Yeah, relationships are interesting. I. I've been single recently too after a nine year relationship.
Before that I had another eight years relationship.
[00:54:23] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:54:24] Speaker B: So there's a lot I can talk about. And I love that Cinderella.
[00:54:31] Speaker A: Yeah, about it.
[00:54:34] Speaker B: We watched those movies when we were and our subconscious was wide open. So we in that concept also.
I love the, I love the idea that two people when they get together, it's about co creating. It is about inspiring each other. It is about becoming a better version of you. We also have to be real and understand that relationships are actually the best thing for your personal development. Because it is like a mirror.
[00:55:11] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:55:12] Speaker B: And if you are with an aligned partner, they are just gonna mirror back to you what you need to work on.
[00:55:22] Speaker A: Yeah. But you have to have space again that you're willing to work on it. That you want to work on that manifesting space. Right. If we're still in the. I'm a victim. I'm a victim. When they mirror that stuff back, man, whoa.
[00:55:37] Speaker B: You're gonna be like why did I choose him?
[00:55:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:55:42] Speaker B: Happening again to me it is, it's again coming back to Understanding that nothing is happening to you. Everything is happening for you. One thing my, My ex used to said, the beginning of relations, of our relationship, I wanted to breakup. And we had lots of fights and arguments and fights, really, not just arguments. And I used to say, I don't want to be with anybody. I want to be just single. It's so much more peaceful.
He used to say something that would trigger me, but now I understand.
He used to say, well, of course, if you sit in your home in front of a wall, you're not going to have any issue with the wall. You're not gonna have anything to talk about or to argue about. Of course it is peaceful. And that's the reality. It is much more peaceful when you're single. There's no one to fight with. There is no one mirroring back to you your. All your issues and insecurities and things that you want to resolve. But also, there's not much growth in that.
[00:56:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I agree. I agree. I've looked at that from a. From a different angle.
As I said before, I'm a single mom. And so that relationship there is, is a mirror as well. And it has completely. It has been a huge part of my own personal growth because the things that get mirrored back and the things that are shown to me, but it's also because I'm in a space of wanting to grow and expand. This is where I literally just did a video about this earlier. About. It's a reason why a lot of people don't communicate about past traumas, about their feelings, about their hurts, their frustrations. Because it's not because they're not willing to talk about it. It's because they don't know how the other person will respond. Because people lack the capacity to be able to sit in a regulated state and just be present. I have a saying. I say the greatest act of love is to be able to just sit and bear witness to someone else's suffering without trying to fix it. And that is something that so many people can't do. Can't bear witness without getting defensive, without making comments to try to make themselves feel better because they're uncomfortable or it's. It's an ugly situation, or it's a scary situation. And they're trying to make themselves feel better, so they're trying to downplay it. Right? It's like we don't have this capacity to just be able to be. And this is, again, when it comes to manifesting, it's like being able to allow feedback to come in and present itself as that without having to defend ourselves, without having to make an excuse for why or how we showed up, without having to make it make sense or explain or whatever. To just receive and be present in that and to be able to hold space in that. Even I don't know about you, but I've seen this with purpose driven women in business, again with content. They're terrified of saying wrong thing or upsetting someone and someone's going to say something mean or they're going to call them a fraud or they're going to whatever.
And it goes to that as well. Where it's like, look, if we're so afraid to show up because we can't handle the feedback that is coming into our reality, we cannot grow, we can't. So we need to be willing to put it out and say, I'm not going to have any type of emotional attachment to this. I'm going to allow it to teach me, take it personally. I'm not going to sit here and feel like I have to defend myself. I'm not going to feel like I have to be perfect and just only be able to receive validation. I'm going to be open so that whatever this situation is can teach me, so that I can become the version I need to become to have what I want. I love that everything is set up to do. Everything is a mirror.
[00:59:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Just having, Bringing the consciousness to this word. I love this word feedback. If we wake up every morning with this consciousness that everything I'm going to experience today is just the feedback.
[01:00:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:10] Speaker B: Maybe put it on a sticky note, put something in your home. Everything is just a feedback.
[01:00:16] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like we're, I, I try to teach this to my practitioners and to my clients where it's like, look, if we step into a place of observation, right? Like we're a scientist, we're doing an experiment. We're here as a soul and we're here observing what can help me expand the most, the fastest so I can achieve what I'm here to achieve most effectively.
I don't have an emotional attachment to it. I don't have an expectation of how it's going to look to play out. I just want to be in this observation mode as a scientist doing an experiment. How did this work? Did this get me the result? What about if I do it like this? What about if I do it like that? Does a scientist get their feelings hurt when you know something doesn't work? Did Thomas Edison say, gosh, that really hurt my feelings when that Light bulb didn't turn on? No. He just looked at it and said, I know that this is my purpose. This clearly didn't work. What can I learn from it so that I can figure out what does?
[01:01:25] Speaker B: So that brings us back to believing in your dream. Because if you fully believe that your desire, your goal, your dream is absolutely yours, no matter how many feedbacks or setbacks you get, you're not gonna stop, you're just gonna keep going like Thomas Edison did, like so many other people did. So just really developing that belief.
[01:01:56] Speaker A: And I think that trust has to do with connecting to our own intuition, you know, being in that feminine energy. If we have that calling, if we've envisioned it, if we've seen it, if we feel it in every fiber of our being that this is what we're meant to do. Yeah, we are. And everything is just showing us how to do it.
[01:02:18] Speaker B: Yeah. And I love to bring this point on also. Just ask yourself, why do I want this thing?
Because we all want different things.
Someone, Elon Musk, wants to colonize Mars. I don't want colonize Mars.
Some people love art, some people love music. Some people want to be a leader, some people want to be a coach. Some people, we all want different things. Ask yourself, why do I want this? It's not random. You want something. The reason why you want something is. I learned it in Kabbalah. I don't know if you're familiar with Kabbalah. It's a spiritual practice. The reason why you want something is because the fulfillment of that thing is calling you, is pinging you to want it and go after it. Because it want to be manifested through you.
[01:03:11] Speaker A: Exactly. Yes.
[01:03:14] Speaker B: Universe want to be manifested through you. So yeah, ideas like these seeds.
[01:03:22] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. And I, I, I, I think we can even look at that too from a, a slightly different perspective. And I think it's so valuable that you brought that up. Why do you want this again? Is it for expansion? Because that means it is meant to be manifest through you. But if you want it because you're trying to distract yourself from something, or because you think you're supposed to have it, or, or because you're in comparison, or because you have pressure, any of that kind of stuff, this is when you are completely out of alignment.
[01:03:52] Speaker B: You want to prove yourself to others.
[01:03:56] Speaker A: Exactly. So if we are in it because we have a calling, because we know this is going to be so expansive, I'm going to literally have like a soulgasm by experiencing this thing. Because I know that this is what I'm meant to birth into this reality that is, that is the why I want to do this thing. Yes. This is absolutely for you, but if you want that boyfriend or that job or that whatever because of the status or because of, you know, they're just so hot or because they have a lot of money or whatever, then like you're off the mark. Like this is. You're trying to manifest from lack and that that's probably why you're kind of getting sticky.
[01:04:47] Speaker B: Yeah. I love Bob always said in his seminars he asked this question many, many times. What do you really want?
What do you really want? What is in your heart, as you said, not what I think I should want, not what society wants me, not what is gonna calm my nervous system. Are going to give me more security or no other reason.
[01:05:12] Speaker A: Satisfy my hormones.
[01:05:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
No other reason than what do you really want deep from your heart.
[01:05:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:05:22] Speaker B: And it doesn't mean, like sometimes it doesn't. We talk about wants and purpose and goal and people think if I don't have that purpose, like life changing purpose, then it's not a purpose. Your purpose might be anything, anything that you love, anything that makes you happy.
[01:05:38] Speaker A: I agree.
[01:05:40] Speaker B: An amazing mom and this gives you so joy. Be the best mom you can be. Whatever it is, doesn't matter.
[01:05:48] Speaker A: There's no big or small volunteering at a dog shelter. I mean, who knows, like, if that is what you're passionate about. I mean, gosh, you know, of course, when we all fall for the doom scroll and we're just kind of like scrolling through Facebook, whatever, you know, I'll come across those videos about people that they just go to shelters to walk the dogs and sit with the dogs and do videos, try to help those dogs get adopted. And like that is their purpose. They are so passionate about it. They are so committed to that. And it fills them up. And I'm like, yeah, do it. That's awesome. Like, if that's what's calling to you, do that, do that thing, make a difference. And it's always going to be something that is expansive, that, that makes a difference with the collective in some way or another, even if it is through art. Because people can look at it and it, it blesses them. I don't know if you're familiar with Bob Ross and the Joy of Painting. It was like really popular during the 80s and 90s on like PBS here in America. Yeah.
[01:06:55] Speaker B: Oh my God, I love, I love watching his stuff.
[01:06:59] Speaker A: Yes. So it's, it's on Hulu here in the US and my daughter and I love to watch it. We love it. We love to watch it. And we just think, gosh, I could do that and I could create something like that because it makes it look so easy and it. It just fills us up, you know, it just makes us feel good. And I'm like, that clearly was that man's calling. That's a good ring through these things to help people feel better and to raise their frequency and their vibration. Because that's the. That's honestly the cure all to everything on this whole planet. All the problems, all the. Everything. Every person as raise our frequencies and heal these patterns, all the problems are going to go away. You're not going to have these issues in a healed collective that are here now. They just won't exist.
[01:07:52] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. Totally.
[01:07:55] Speaker A: I love it. This was such a great conversation.
For those that are interested in learning your techniques for manifesting, how could someone get in touch with you or work with you?
[01:08:06] Speaker B: Well, I appreciate that, first of all. Well, I'm on social media, Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube. Under my first and last name, Helia Ogani. I'm also offering a free live master class. I don't know when you're gonna post this, though. It is from April 21st to 25th.
Before then, they are more than welcome to join. It's an absolutely free event. It is called design your dream life. And I will be teaching everything about manifestation, mindset, subconscious reprogramming, and everything that I learned from my mentor, Bob.
I can send you the link, people.
[01:08:46] Speaker A: I would love that. Will you have a replay? Or maybe you could do a replay link for the audience?
[01:08:51] Speaker B: Yeah, usually I keep the. The replays. What about one week after?
Yes, definitely. Anyone who can't join live, they. They will have the replay. They can watch it the same day or within next, the following week.
[01:09:06] Speaker A: Okay, awesome.
[01:09:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm pretty active on all social media platforms except Tik Tok. I'm not on Tik Tok. Not yet.
[01:09:14] Speaker A: It's going away here in the US.
[01:09:16] Speaker B: I heard about it, but I think it went away, came back again.
[01:09:20] Speaker A: Last I heard, it's officially on its way out, so I don't know because it's been so touch and go. I just haven't even been on there in the last, I don't know, months. I'm like, I'm not investing any time and energy into something that is clearly, like, not stable.
So.
[01:09:37] Speaker B: Definitely. Yeah, well, that's, that's where I am. And I appreciate you. I enjoyed the conversation. Thank you so much for the opportunity.
[01:09:46] Speaker A: Yeah, of course. Thank you. And maybe we'll do another one in a couple months about relationships.
[01:09:55] Speaker B: Expert in relationships.
[01:09:58] Speaker A: I love it. I love it. Awesome.
[01:10:01] Speaker B: I would love to. Thanks, Nancy. Thank you so much.
[01:10:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Thank you.
