Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hello and welcome to today's episode of the Intuitive Femme Network. I'm your host, Nancy Cooper, and we have special guest with us today, the Black Butterfly Goddess. She's a psychic intuitive and she's going to be teaching us all about how to connect with our ancestors. So stay tuned. All right, tell us about yourself, Nancy.
[00:00:33] Speaker B: Thank you so much. I'm so glad to be here with the Intuitive Femme. Yes. That's what we're all about.
I am Black Tawana Yvette, Black butterfly Goddess. I am actually a fourth generation intuitive healer, psychic medium, and spiritual strategist.
I help women with healing ancestral wounds, things, you know, traumas, things like that, clearing them away and stepping boldly into their power. So I am so glad to be here today.
[00:01:07] Speaker A: I love it. I love it. I think there, there's so much to unpack with what, what you can do and what you can teach us. We decided we're going to really focus on ancestors. This is something I love to talk about, but it's not something I teach about.
So when it comes to your work, how long have you been working with your ancestors to support your clients?
[00:01:34] Speaker B: I have been working two years fully with my ancestors to support all of my clients.
Whether it's just a reading or my coaching or a summit or whatever, my ancestors run everything.
[00:01:50] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:01:53] Speaker B: During my spiritual awakening, I lost everything and everyone.
And they wanted it that way.
They wanted me to heal, but only with their help.
And so I've always been psychic. My mother found out when I was two and a half that I was psychic.
My pop pop came to me.
I was. I was sitting on the living room floor. She had a pallet for me, and she was in the kitchen cooking. And she hears me squealing and laughing, and she peeks outside of the kitchen to see what I'm doing, and I'm just squealing and laughing, going, pop, pop. Can't catch me.
And she's like.
And the phone rings, and it was my nana letting her know, pop up, transition.
[00:02:46] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:02:48] Speaker B: So she nurtured. Yeah, she nurtured those gifts until I was about die.
And that's where, like, a lot of my darkness started.
[00:03:01] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:03:02] Speaker B: Everything I had to heal from started then.
[00:03:05] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:03:06] Speaker B: So went through a lot of trauma, a lot of traumatic events, made terrible choices, had my first child in high school, had my by. By the time I was 24, I had three children, plus an adopted child who was my husband at the time, sister, and made a lot of really bad decisions and choices and didn't kept running from the idea of healing from my trauma.
[00:03:37] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:03:41] Speaker B: I tried to end my existence.
And that's where she came in.
For 23 years, I mourned my mother so deeply, I would crawl into bed with two bags of Lays potato chips and dare anyone to contact me. On her birthday and the anniversary of her passing, I kept telling my daughter I went somewhere.
I remembered when I fell asleep from the medicine.
There was my stepfather and my mother standing at a tree line.
And I remember running over to them and I'm like, daddy, Mommy, finally I'm with you. Oh, my God. And I'm so excited. Excited. And Daddy's like.
Because my. My. My daddy. My. Now people will hear me talk about my daddy and my father. My father is a monster.
My daddy.
My daddy was everything.
He was strong and amazing. And I never knew that I was not his.
[00:04:56] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:04:56] Speaker B: He stood there at that tree line, and he never told me no in real life. Never told me no.
And he was looking down and he's got this kind of posture, and he's like, no, bum, bum. It's not time. And I. I look at him and I run over to my mother, who is elegant and poised, and she's not listening to any of the ranting that I'm doing.
She's going, people are waiting for you. And I'm begging her, mom, please just listen to me. Just let me stay with you. I'm tired.
You have a purpose.
And it begins now. And she takes and she pushes up against my chest. And I go back into my 3D body.
[00:05:43] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:05:46] Speaker B: So I moved. I relocated. I came here to D.C. i was helping my sister who had just lost her husband. And that's when I realized I was a healer.
Because while I'm still screaming inside from what caused me to not want to exist anymore, I can feel my body filtering her emotions. And even the six month old Cane Corso she had at the time, I'm filtering his emotions while I'm trying not to say, your husband's right, he's right there. You're crying, but he's right there. Like, you know, because I'm clearly seeing him. But I'm doing my best to ignore him.
Two days before I moved into my apartment, he got me. He got me.
It was the first day the government called everybody back into the office. And my sister works for the city government, and so she went back into the office for the first time.
And I'm sitting there and I'm all distracted. I'm looking at the television. 90 Day Fiance was on and you know, I'm playing with the dog. And he says something. And I turned around and went, that's ridiculous.
Oh my God. He goes, I knew you could see me. And I knew you heard me. You have to give your sister this message. And who, me?
I said, don't you want a post it note?
Write it on her whiteboard.
Something not me. It can't be me because I was still wearing a couple of masks.
[00:07:30] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:07:31] Speaker B: But when I got in my apartment, Mother's voice got loud and she wouldn't let me sleep. It was, get up, get up. Every night I tried to go to sleep, it was, get up, get up.
And she had me outside scripting, just closing my eyes, writing from the subconscious. And I'm talking about B.C. winter. I am out there in it. I bought a Canada goose coat and a heated blanket because I'm sitting outside.
But one thing we don't realize, our ancestors all don't know how to use their energy well.
So us being outside in nature, they can get that download in us like that.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: Interesting.
[00:08:20] Speaker B: We've got WI fi, electricity.
[00:08:23] Speaker A: Oh yeah.
[00:08:24] Speaker B: All of these signals blocking them.
Especially those who have not learned.
[00:08:34] Speaker A: To.
[00:08:34] Speaker B: Perfect their energy on the other side yet.
So they've got all of this stuff to learn to work through that didn't exist when they were around. But if we're outside, there's no barrier.
[00:08:49] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:08:51] Speaker B: There's no signal that's keeping us from the download.
[00:08:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Wow.
[00:09:00] Speaker B: I'm never so that way.
[00:09:01] Speaker A: But that makes so much sense because everything is frequency, you know, it's something I've been learning more about and how, you know, our eyes can only see. But so much of the spectrum. Yes, there is stuff that is all around us all the time, like a whole different dimensions that we just cannot see. And so with all of these frequencies going in and out, in and out, it makes perfect sense that that's going to really make it more challenging to receive communication the other side from high. I always say high vibrational because as long as we're high vibrational, we can only receive from high vibrational.
[00:09:38] Speaker B: Exactly.
You are, you are so correct. So correct.
So while we were in that process, I did a meditation one morning and I opened my eyes and I could see my mother in full form.
[00:10:00] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:10:04] Speaker B: And I remember kind of doing one of those things like, sure.
And I jumped up because I just wanted to hug her. But you, you can't hug them now. They can, they can place sensations upon your skin or things like that. But yeah, you can't get like a real 3D hug.
[00:10:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:28] Speaker B: There are times when I'm not well. I do have epilepsy. So when I'm not well, there are times where if I have a bad seizure, I can feel my mother's hand. She always used to rub our backs just like, lightly until we fell asleep when we didn't feel well.
If I have a really bad seizure, I can feel that. I can literally feel her just brushing lightly up against my back.
But she started introducing people to me. I did this deep dive into ancestry and family search. It was year long, just family search and ancestry. Just deep diving into who I am.
And the final ancestor of that batch that I was introduced to, she. My mother walks over to me and she goes, I'm going to introduce you to your. Your fourth great grandmother, Jerusha. I said, jerusha? What is a Jerusha? Who was that?
That name in our family? And she goes, you have the thing. Look for it.
So I knew what that meant. Go online to ancestry and stuff. And as I'm doing this dive, there's one photo in my mother's lineage, and it's a headstone from the 1800s, Jerusha. And.
[00:11:54] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:11:54] Speaker B: That name has never been spoken in my family.
[00:11:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: And she's the spicy one. The. The little short, Irish spicy one. She's. She's got hair like yours. It's about that. That long. And it's red like yours. And she's the spicy one. Okay. She's. She's the one who doesn't tolerate disrespect.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: I think she and I would have gotten along very well.
[00:12:20] Speaker B: Her. We get along really well now, too. Not so much a year ago, but, yes, I get her now.
She. Even. Last year, I did a tick tock. I was leaving for vacation. It was June 2nd, I will never forget it.
And I did a tick tock live. And I used to. When people used to come in and call me a witch or tell me I'm going to hell or whatever they want to say, I used to just block. There was no dialect, no. No dialogue. Excuse me.
I would just block.
And I did the live. I stood up to go to the bedroom to get my suitcase. She goes, how dare you?
What did I do?
How dare you.
You let those people disrespect you on that thing and you can talk and we couldn't. I waited 200 and something years for you. How dare you.
[00:13:19] Speaker A: Whoa.
It's got chills all over. Yeah. God, what a. Like, I want to sit with that right there just for a moment.
Think about us do that. Like, how many of us as intuitives, those of us that are stepping into our power, putting ourselves out there. I do the same thing. If someone comes on and says something negative, I just block and delete it because I'm like, I. It causes so much anxiety in our bodies. It's so uncomfortable. And we're thinking, like, I'm just going to diffuse this. It's hard.
[00:13:50] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:13:51] Speaker A: Showing up, knowing that those are going to happen anyway. And so just try to just get rid of them and not feed into it. But what.
What a concept, right? That we actually have rights as women to speak.
But let's not ignore other aspects of rights that.
That a lot of individuals were blocked from having. And so now we're in this space where it's like, you have a voice.
[00:14:26] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:14:27] Speaker A: And speak up for yourself.
Like, damn.
[00:14:31] Speaker B: Whoa.
Hit me so hard.
I couldn't. I again, I'm epileptic, so of course I have medicine that I slip under the tongue before a flight. And usually it'll put me to sleep for about 45 minutes or so.
I couldn't sleep on the plane. It hit me that hard.
I was just like ruminating. It kept going over, over in my mind.
And she's.
[00:15:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:04] Speaker B: She'S right. So now when people come into my tiktoks with those things or any other live I'm doing, I don't have to get nasty, but I do say something back.
It's usually something they don't want the public to know. That spirit will tell me really quick because I do give them the opportunity to leave. But a lot of them just keep going and going and going and. And when they do that, it's like, okay, well, since you want to stay here, let's unpack. Let's unpack, why don't we. And I have the big smile on my face and everything, and I'm sitting here just as calm.
But our ancestors did wait for us.
They did wait for the one who was not afraid to heal from the trauma they were put through, who was not afraid of the gifts that we have. Because let's face it, being an intuitive is scary.
It is when you start seeing people and you don't know whether you're losing your mind or if this is actual. It is terrifying.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: Yes, it is. And even if you don't see them, some of us, I don't hearing, yes.
[00:16:29] Speaker B: The sensing.
[00:16:30] Speaker A: I will feel. I can feel there's someone. I will walk by a person in the grocery store and get flashes of things about Them that I do not want to know and cannot do anything about.
That is.
That is heavy.
It's not just all tarot cards and, you know, twin flames.
[00:16:52] Speaker B: I. I wish it was right.
I. I wish it was just tarot cards and twin flames.
It would make life a lot easier.
[00:17:02] Speaker A: Seriously. It's like. It's not that. It's.
[00:17:05] Speaker B: It's staying inside because we're zapped because we. We had to make that trip to Walmart or Target.
[00:17:12] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:17:14] Speaker B: The. The chakras when someone who you thought was a friend is betraying you and. And the sacral going absolutely bonkers trying to warn you.
[00:17:26] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:17:29] Speaker B: So, no, this walk is not easy, but.
So I have. Currently, there are 22 ancestors in the room.
17 of them. I know.
Well, the others have just come. It used to be 18 that were in present and visible in the room.
But the chief, I am partially Native American, kind of gave me an upgrade a couple of weeks ago.
And so he now dwells within me instead of over in the corner, which is where he had to stand because his energy was.
[00:18:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:19] Speaker B: My great great grandfather was Native American chief of the Shinnecock Indians. And we know that land is the Hamptons.
[00:18:28] Speaker A: Oh, wow.
[00:18:29] Speaker B: Generation.
That land was taken.
[00:18:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:34] Speaker B: From my great, great grandfather.
[00:18:36] Speaker A: Another evidentiary piece of content about how we have a voice now. And there were a lot of people that did not.
[00:18:49] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:18:50] Speaker A: For many, many reasons. If they were not a white male, then there was no voice.
[00:18:57] Speaker B: There was no voice. I come from Native American, Barbados and Irish.
That's. That's what I am made up of. And those are three of the most powerful spiritual.
They have the most powerful spiritual histories in the books.
[00:19:18] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:19:19] Speaker B: The. The West Indian Native and Irish.
[00:19:26] Speaker A: Some of the.
Honestly, some of, like the deepest wounding, which is heavy. That's. That is heavy. When you think about certain groups and what we've also inherited, because we are that person to clear that out. That's why the ancestors come, because they're like, hey, you're the. Like you said, you're the one we've been waiting for. Because when we do our work, we unravel the things that are kind of holding them. And. And it's. It's beautiful. Beautiful work. But it is scary.
[00:20:06] Speaker B: It's a heavy calling and it's scary.
[00:20:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I would love for you to tell us a little bit more about, like, after your mom came in and you started having those communications and she started kind of introducing other ancestors.
How did it kind of come about that you learned how to communicate with the new Ones build the relationships. What they taught you, like, what did that look like? What was that experience for you?
[00:20:40] Speaker B: So the way my mother did it, and I'm glad she did it this way, is.
First, I had to be able to recognize that there was someone new here.
Second, I learned their energy.
I learned their voice.
She gave me their name.
And after she introduced them, they appeared in form.
[00:21:03] Speaker A: I love that. That's very loving.
[00:21:05] Speaker B: It is. It is. And. And so even though everything's happening fast, it could have happened in a very different way, and it would have been jarring.
[00:21:17] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:21:18] Speaker B: Yes. So I am very comfortable. Everybody has their position, their place, and I am very comfortable with that.
The new ones, they.
They've come since the chief integrated inside of me. He said during a hypnosis, kind of meditation type thing that I did, he walked over to me, which was very unusual unless I was doing a reading for someone who had Native in their blood, it was very unusual for him to walk over to me. So during this hypnosis thing, he walks over to me.
He places his headdress upon my head.
[00:22:08] Speaker A: Wow. That's.
[00:22:10] Speaker B: And he says, you no longer need me. Your native name is Thunderbird Rising.
And I had. I couldn't stop crying. Like, the emotion from it was unbelievable.
Three days later, my manifestation number is three. Three days.
I hear Mama say, look up the Shinnecock tribe on Facebook. And I'm like, lady, I did this deep dive a couple of years ago. There's. There's not much there, and.
But I went.
Because we have a playful relationship. I know when it's okay to be playful and. And when to give reverence. There's a difference.
[00:22:55] Speaker A: Serious.
[00:22:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
And so, you know, I was being playful, but I was still doing what she told me to do.
And I scroll, and I see this picture, and I stop in my tracks.
See, when I did that deep dive a couple of years ago, I didn't know who I was looking for.
[00:23:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:17] Speaker B: It was a photo of the chief and my tribe.
But the next photo that came up, right behind it, the woman who started the Shinnecock Natives Museum so that our history would not be erased.
Thunderbird Rising.
[00:23:46] Speaker A: Wow.
Wow.
You know, it's. It's interesting because as you're sharing this, I'm receiving some little insights about this. And as someone, I. I channel light language and do a lot with, like, cellular upgrades and, like, DNA activation and stuff through that. And so it's interesting because I'm looking at this, and one thing, I'm like, how cool is this? Right? Like, we all have our different things and, like, different ways that we're, we're able to impact and help others. That's why we all need support from our sisters. Right? Yeah. Woman's an island.
Because we, we can all fill in little gaps for each other. But one of the things that I was receiving is that, you know, we carry in our DNA, our ancestors.
[00:24:38] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:24:38] Speaker A: They're, they're there. And so what I received, and you can tell me if this feels like confirmation to you, but it was a cellular, like, upgrade. You had gotten to a level where his essence could unlock and your DNA upgraded.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:57] Speaker A: And, oh, I got the goosebumps, those confirmation, like, how cool is that, that you got to experience that in a way where it was so personal, it was so supportive. A lot of times when I've done, like, my own work, I'll feel the upgrades come in and I'll, I will get messages and I'll make some kind of contact. Usually it's more with, like, my star family, but I, I, I haven't had any direct experience like that. And I'm just like, ah, it's like, how neat to be able to experience an upgrade like that.
[00:25:39] Speaker B: The fact that I, I remember it, I witnessed it.
[00:25:48] Speaker A: Amazing.
[00:25:49] Speaker B: I can't describe the joy.
Yeah, the, the sadness that he wasn't, I wasn't going to look over and see him standing in the corner anymore.
The fighting with me.
I am energetically wearing my great grandfather's headdress. Natives don't give up their headdresses. Me.
[00:26:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:19] Speaker B: Gosh, I fought with that.
There were, I mean, I cried for three days.
I cried for three days.
[00:26:30] Speaker A: Well, to be honest, that makes sense to me too, because when we go through an upgrade, we have purge.
It's, it's emotional and some are bigger than others. And sometimes we're, we're able to move through it pretty efficiently, and other times it's, it is heavy because there is a level of mourning.
[00:26:51] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:26:52] Speaker A: It's like we're, we're not only mourning that ancestor or that star family or whoever, wherever that energy is coming from and the absence of them in whatever way, but we're also mourning that version of ourself before, because now we're someone new. We have been upgraded and that old version of us no longer exists.
And that can be hard to let go of. And that can be scary as well, because it comes with new expectations, new responsibilities, new boundaries.
Yes. Lots of changes because. And we'll try. I, I don't know if you've seen it But I've seen it. It's like, we will try to stay in that old reality, and you can't. That's when things start falling apart, and we're like, what is going on in my life? Why is everything just crumbling? It's like, because that reality is not for you anymore. It's not for you, and you can't.
[00:27:54] Speaker B: It's not your reality.
[00:27:57] Speaker A: Gone.
We have to mourn that.
[00:28:00] Speaker B: I, I, I went through three days of just crying and crying from joy, crying from fear, crying from everything because, you know, I'm brave and I'm bold and I'm. I'm resilient, but it's scared, too, sometimes.
[00:28:19] Speaker A: Sure. I, you know, I'm here. And it was like, I hear you so much.
[00:28:25] Speaker B: I knew.
I knew when he put that headdress on my head that it came with great responsibility, great response. I mean.
[00:28:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:40] Speaker B: And so I, that's who I am now.
I.
Yes, ma' am.
My mother just told me, stop running from it.
[00:29:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:02] Speaker B: Because I was going to say I am a high priestess, but I don't say that to people.
And when I stopped myself, she said, stop running from it.
[00:29:17] Speaker A: Hush. I mean, how many people can relate to that, though? I know even with my, My clients, even the beautiful, amazing women that have come into my certification that I have that imposter syndrome. I mean. Oh, I carry it, too still. You know, it is not an easy thing to shake where we're like. But I'm special, especially because so many of us that have these gifts, that have these abilities, that have this calling.
Growing up, we were not made to feel special. We were the opposite. We were made exactly.
[00:29:59] Speaker B: Worthless.
[00:30:00] Speaker A: Isolated.
[00:30:01] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:30:03] Speaker A: Weird.
Like, just the outcome.
And so we. We have all these imprints in our body, so it's like, oh, my gosh, now I'm supposed to just show up boldly and authentically and all of my, you know, magical glory and allow myself to receive abundance, support, provision. Like, that's.
[00:30:26] Speaker B: Yes, we are.
Yes, we are.
[00:30:29] Speaker A: It's work, right there.
[00:30:31] Speaker B: It is work.
I wish people understood that. It's actual work.
[00:30:38] Speaker A: Yes, it is.
[00:30:38] Speaker B: Not just, oh, okay, I'm high priestess now. I get to sit here and look pretty. No, I have responsibilities.
[00:30:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:47] Speaker B: Thunderbird rising means tribe leader.
[00:30:49] Speaker A: I have to lead.
[00:30:52] Speaker B: I have to leave.
[00:30:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:54] Speaker B: And that means moving forward without fear.
Even when my legs are shaking.
[00:31:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Tangled. I always make the joke, you know, when we get nervous. I know for me, I'll go ahead and just say it. Like, my underarms, I'll be like, oh, my God. And so I. I make the joke that a lot of times when I have to do something that really stretches me, I always. They're gonna see me in a black shirt.
[00:31:24] Speaker B: So you can't see. You can't see the sweat. We're gonna be.
[00:31:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I will show up. I will be there, but I'll be wearing black.
[00:31:33] Speaker B: And for me, it's because I have a back injury.
I've got titanium sitting on my sciatic nerve.
And so because I have that injury, it's like, when I get scared, that part of my body shakes so good from here up, nobody can tell I'm scared. But if you saw me, you see my hips doing this little dance from the side if I'm standing still.
But we. We have that fear. But the whole point of having them behind us is knowing that whatever our 3D body is incapable of doing, they jump in.
[00:32:18] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, we're all so supported. Even if. For those of us that can't see the support, like, we are so supported in the work that we're doing, even in those dark moments, even in those moments of discouragement, even in the moments of imposter syndrome, like, there is so much support that is there for us, and nobody feels like they're called. I literally had this conversation just the other day with a client on a. Like, during a session where, like, that. Anybody who had a true calling, you know, people like Joan of Arc or, you know, these. These historical figures you hear about, like, Moses from the Bible and different stuff where they're like, they. They don't do it because they're like, I'm here to. For everyone to remember me. No, they do it because they are called to do it. They do it while they're sweating. They do it while they're shaking. They.
Knowing that they could be persecuted, like, they. They're not doing.
[00:33:29] Speaker B: Do it afraid.
[00:33:30] Speaker A: Yeah. That's.
[00:33:31] Speaker B: That's the way I live. Do it afraid.
[00:33:34] Speaker A: That is where the calling is. It's like, we. We have to do it. That's. It's so longing.
[00:33:43] Speaker B: I wish people would understand that because, like, for years, I tried the normal half. Kids, family, stay at home. And. And now the thought of that is.
[00:33:53] Speaker A: Like, I know you do it.
[00:33:55] Speaker B: How did you raise three children alone? How did you do that? Because the thought of doing that today terrifies.
[00:34:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:05] Speaker B: But this, too, is terrifying.
[00:34:09] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:34:09] Speaker B: Because sometimes there are days where I just want to be normal.
[00:34:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:17] Speaker B: There are days I just want to blend in. There are days I want to go into a store and Somebody doesn't talk to me.
[00:34:25] Speaker A: Oh yeah.
[00:34:25] Speaker B: And tell me their life story and, and you know, you're different and, and your energy just shines. And I had to talk to you like there. I've tried to wear all black. It doesn't work. I've tried to dip and dodge behind corners and it doesn't work. It never works. Our lights are too bright. It's okay.
And let it shine. At this point, like that little church song some of us learned in Sunday school. I'm just going to let it shine. So it is what it is now. Now that I've had that upgrade and time to integrate, it just is.
[00:35:05] Speaker A: Yeah. That's why it's so important to, for us to prioritize like self care, our boundaries.
We have to know what we deserve and, and how that should look for us and step out of this energy of self sacrifice and over giving and people pleasing. And what if I obsess like you're going to no matter what?
Like you can't make everybody happy, but you can at least make yourself happy by not ignoring this deep resonance that is echoing in you trying to escape into the world.
[00:35:51] Speaker B: Why drive yourself crazy trying to do it? Just, just be. Just be whoever it is you were created to be.
[00:35:58] Speaker A: Just be right and embrace, like you said earlier. Embrace the fact that we can speak up for ourselves.
[00:36:08] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. And one of the things. My favorite word is surrender.
I would never get it tattooed on me. Never.
But my favorite word is surrender. And it's because the in, In December of 2023, I laid on my living room floor, literally arms out and said, ancestors, I surrender. I'm tired of trying to control this narrative. I surrender. Whatever it is you want me to do, you want me to say I surrender.
My life got easier because I stopped trying to control it.
Yeah.
What's up? People ask me what's happening next? I don't know. It'll come out.
Yeah, whatever's coming up next. I. I just finished. I did my own three day summit. People ask me at the end, what's next? I don't know. Are you gonna do another one?
[00:37:05] Speaker A: I'm gonna rest.
[00:37:06] Speaker B: Probably.
Probably. But right now my only focus is it won't be this week.
[00:37:13] Speaker A: Yeah, seriously.
[00:37:15] Speaker B: And I'll. Even with that.
Even with that. We have to be careful because mama goes on Monday. It won't be this week. Here, let me give you all these downloads.
[00:37:28] Speaker A: Oh yeah.
[00:37:29] Speaker B: Had no choice but to sit here while she was downloading and get that information out of my body.
And then I just Like, I've been smack sleep every night since.
[00:37:43] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm sitting here because I'm like, hush, I hear you.
Like, I hear you. This is like those times where you're thinking, oh, my gosh, I just need to rest. And even when you go to bed, you have all the dreams and you've got all those glitchy. It's like everything's coming in, downloading, sorting and. And it's not restful at all. It's like I slept for eight hours and I.
[00:38:07] Speaker B: But I need. I need sleep. I just woke up, but I need to go back to sleep.
[00:38:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, it's still a point where, like, can you please, like, just let me rest? Just. Just give me a day, please. Like, I'm here for it, but I'm tired.
[00:38:24] Speaker B: I'm still stuck in this 3D body and it gets tired and it needs nutrients and. And water and to go outside, there's a puppy that's got to go outside. And yes.
So this. This journey, while I wouldn't have it any other way because I'm loving this, it's not.
It's not for the weary. And it's definitely not what is portrayed on TikTok, where the fakes are getting $450 an hour living in high rises, and those of us that actually have these gifts are getting called names and questioned about our pricing.
[00:39:10] Speaker A: Yeah, that's part of the paradigm. That is definitely what I've gathered. It's shifting, it's happening. It's definitely happening.
But that's going to come from us stepping into that. It's that worthiness, it's that receiving that has been a big pivot and focus for me and my work, where it's like we have to activate our ability to not only receive, but.
But for us to feel safe being received.
Feeling safe being received for who we are, for the value that we bring and be honored and appreciated in that. Like, that is very uncomfortable to many of us who have been called into this work. It's the ones that are out there just. Yeah. Calling it in, welcoming echo cards and.
[00:40:04] Speaker B: Like you said, tarot cards and twin flames.
[00:40:07] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And it's.
[00:40:09] Speaker B: They don't have that class on that.
Twin flames and tarot.
[00:40:16] Speaker A: There you go. That's all it's about. Tick tock. Twin flames and tarot. Sounds like a copy chat.
[00:40:21] Speaker B: I love it.
[00:40:22] Speaker A: That'll be my new podcast.
[00:40:24] Speaker B: There you go. There you go.
[00:40:27] Speaker A: But that. That is where we can sort out the frogs from the real people. Because the frauds, they don't have that wound.
They don't have that wound.
And so therefore they're not. They aren't authentic.
[00:40:44] Speaker B: No, ma' am.
[00:40:46] Speaker A: That's so powerful. So to bring this back around for those that want to learn how to connect more with their own ancestors and maybe try to tap into that if they feel called. I do want to preface this before kind of digging into that.
Everybody's journey looks different, right? Yes, I. Mine is very different from yours. And so I really want to make sure that those that are listening or watching understand that just because you don't see others in front or in the room or just because you're not connecting with ancestors doesn't mean that you're not psychic or talented or powerful. It just means that that's not what you're called to utilize right now in your.
[00:41:32] Speaker B: It's not. Yeah. Your superpower at the moment. Yeah.
[00:41:35] Speaker A: And that's okay. But by being open, you will find your own.
And so for those that feel aligned to this and even those that's like, okay, this isn't going to be my, like, number one go to thing, but I'd like to be open to it. Right.
Besides starting going outside, I remembered that. What else would you recommend for them to start doing?
[00:41:59] Speaker B: The first thing you want to actually, before going outside, if you want to work with your ancestors and guides, you want to make sure you say something to the effect of ancestors and guides that are here for my highest good only, please come forward.
You never just want to say all ancestors because just like, you wouldn't invite Uncle Jerry to the party because he's going to get drunk and do some nasty things, you might not want Uncle Jerry around from the afterlife because maybe he has not learned his lesson.
So you always want to make sure when you're calling in any type of beauty, spirit guide, or ancestor here for my highest good only.
[00:42:53] Speaker A: Yes. And we have that power, like, we are sovereign in this space, and we have control over that. And by just speaking that that's enough.
[00:43:01] Speaker B: That eliminates anybody who has ill intent. Now, I will say this. My father is bound in the afterlife.
I paid a shaman to bind him so he can never enter my energy or the energy of anything that stems from my DNA. Wow.
So my granddaughter's children can't be approached by him because there are trickster spirits out there.
[00:43:34] Speaker A: Sure.
[00:43:35] Speaker B: But you just ask them. They're waiting for us to ask them.
They protect us. But they can only do so much.
We ask.
[00:43:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:52] Speaker B: Once you ask them to come forward for your highest good only, you Would then look for the signs. Do you see repeating the angel numbers? And by the way, don't go to Google for angel numbers, because I always ask, who at Google interviewed the angels?
I need to know.
You can.
[00:44:21] Speaker A: Right.
[00:44:24] Speaker B: He interviewed the angels. But I assign angel numbers so I know when I see My birthday is 21 4.
If I see 214 in any combination, I know they're telling me something good is coming.
That's just an example of what I've assigned. But I've assigned other numbers. You can assign your spirit team numbers. Hey. And you write it. Make sure you write it. You don't just say it out loud. You write it. When I see 11:11, this is what I want it to mean. When I see 444, this is what I want it to mean. And you will start to see that something else is finding pennies that were issued before 1989, because those are the ones that are fully copper.
Their energy can move copper.
But the other heavy metals that have since been integrated into pennies, they don't like so much.
Leave a glass of water, Buy a picture of an answer, a loved one that's passed on.
But talk to the water.
I talk to my water. I tell it what I want it to mean. I tell it what I need, and it carries the messages to them.
[00:45:51] Speaker A: Wow. Yeah. His water holds messages. I mean, gosh, they even went memory the second Frozen movie, you know?
[00:45:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:45:59] Speaker A: Becoming more mainstream now.
[00:46:02] Speaker B: Yes. Well, it's always been. The secrets have always been in Disney movies. Yeah, they have always been hidden, intertwined in Disney movies. I watched right after the Hawaii Burning. Now, I had seen Moana 2.9 million times, because when Moana was out, my grandbaby was 2, and her daily routine was wake up, go to Nana's room, sit in the middle of Nana's king size bed, and watch Nana dance and sing to Moana while Moana was playing.
So I had seen it 2.9 million times, but right after the Hawaii fires, I heard something say, watch that movie again. I don't watch television. I've stopped watching television.
And I saw all types of things in the movie Elemental.
[00:47:01] Speaker A: The movie Elemental, when you start, especially you watch it now as an adult, and then like, versus as a child, you're like, whoa, where did that come from? What is that about? Like, even in Moana, I mean, come on, Maui. Taking the. The heart. This is all about the wounded masculine.
[00:47:22] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:47:24] Speaker A: The power from the feminine. Feminine use it for themselves. And look at what happened to the feminine. They became angry and Toxic and completely disconnected. I know I've been there before.
Disconnecting from their power like that. I. Every time I watch that movie, and that. The part where Moana realizes the fire monster really is. And she's. She's asked the ocean apart. Let her come to me. I'm telling you, every time I watch that, I cry because. Me, too.
I thought I was the only one. Oh, my God. My daughter thinks I'm ridiculous, but I'm like. Every time, I just cry because I.
[00:48:09] Speaker B: What it means we can feel that.
[00:48:11] Speaker A: I'm like, I know this. I feel this. But if I was still in the wounded energy and completely disconnect, I wouldn't get it. I'd be like, okay, whatever.
[00:48:21] Speaker B: And that's where I was when I watched it 2.9 million times with my granddaughter. I just sang the songs because it was fun.
But, yeah, it was. It was right after that, I just heard something say, watch it, and I turned my TV on. I had to. I had to subscribe to something. That's how little I watch tv.
[00:48:40] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:48:41] Speaker B: I had to subscribe to something I don't watch.
Doesn't bring me yummy energy.
[00:48:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:48:47] Speaker B: So for me, not worth it.
[00:48:51] Speaker A: Yeah, it's not worth it. But there have been some interesting things in the. Some of the newer, especially, like, Disney movies, even with the second Frozen one. Like, seeing when she's going to the cave, right? She's like, on the. The water course or whatever, and she's like, I hear you, and I'm coming.
And it's like, oh, that part also gets me, because it's like she realizes that part that she always thought was missing was her power. Like, her true connection to her very essence. And, man, that moves me, too, because I'm like, I get this.
My daughter thinks I'm nuts, but I'm like, whatever. Just let me watch.
[00:49:35] Speaker B: Just let me do. Let me watch.
Let me watch.
[00:49:39] Speaker A: Let me watch my Disney movie.
[00:49:41] Speaker B: That's something in my eye.
[00:49:43] Speaker A: Oh, I just let it. I'm like, will you get the attention, Mom?
Like, whatever. Like, I didn't even used to be able to cry, but I. I've had to reconnect into my feminine energy. And now I'm, like, grateful that I can feel the energy movement through me because I'm no longer the fire monster, Right?
[00:50:02] Speaker B: No. Right.
[00:50:03] Speaker A: Claimed my heart and done that.
Oh, I love it. I love it.
I try. I'm trying to keep an eye on the time. It. It's been so amazing getting to talk to you. For those that do want to learn how to kind of dig more in, do some of the work that you do or work through things in the way that you allow space for and assist your clients to do? How could they do that? How could they kind of get to know you better or maybe access something that you put together? What would that look like?
[00:50:36] Speaker B: I've got for any of the viewers here, the Inner Power Awakening Kit.
And that's. It's got an energy clearing guide because before you work with any spirits, you want to clear the energy and after you work with any spirits, you want to clear the energy.
Journaling affirmations for your inner power and a grounding meditation.
I was also just told to add two things to that. And, and one is setting up your ancestors altar. I did it on that.
I'm just writing it down because she just said it and I love that.
What was the other thing, Mom?
The Claire's.
I wrote an ebook on the Claire's. So those two things will be uploaded into the Inner Power Awakening kit and you will be able to download that for free.
[00:51:39] Speaker A: Amazing. Wow, that's amazing. That is. That is quite a gift. That's awesome. I'm like, I want that ancestor altar thing. Like that sounds really.
Well, it's cool.
[00:51:50] Speaker B: It's really cool.
[00:51:51] Speaker A: Yeah, because it's like there's just something special about having a special place to go to with intention that helps you tune in and connect.
[00:52:02] Speaker B: I do that every morning.
I love that every morning. The dog even knows the routine.
We come out the bedroom, she goes in her playpen, I serve them coffee.
People come in my apartment and the energy is always calm, so they get fooled by that. Then they look over at a dining room table full of a tea set with actual tea in them and coffee up on this, you know, thing with all these bookshelves and I mean, on this bookshelf with all these candles and crystals and other things. And yes, I do serve my ancestors hot coffee and tea every day. They want them.
[00:52:43] Speaker A: I love it. It's just kind of your way to sit and congregate.
[00:52:47] Speaker B: I sit and, and, you know, whether I'm upset or whether I feel empowered, I talk to them, tell them about what my. What I think my plans are for that day and allow them to place downloads in my body and just sit before the altar and, and, and be.
[00:53:08] Speaker A: I think that that's. That's really cool because even if people are not feeling super connected to work with their ancestors, like, I mean, there's the angelic realm, even our higher.
[00:53:19] Speaker B: There's the angels, the higher self.
[00:53:22] Speaker A: With, like. And have breakfast with our higher self.
[00:53:27] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:53:28] Speaker A: And be intentional and talk. We can even talk to her about what we're worried about, what we're scared of, what. What's coming up.
[00:53:37] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:53:37] Speaker A: It's amazing what happens when we make space like that.
It's incredible what will come in.
[00:53:45] Speaker B: It is.
[00:53:46] Speaker A: To that space that we.
[00:53:48] Speaker B: It definitely is.
[00:53:50] Speaker A: I love it. I love it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I think that is a perfect place to.
To stop.
I think that you and I could probably talk and talk and talk. I absolutely love this conversation. Is there anything else that you want to add for the audience before we.
In this episode?
[00:54:11] Speaker B: I just want to tell ladies, stop being afraid of your power and. And stop being afraid to heal your pain, because the pain is connected to your power.
[00:54:22] Speaker A: Yes.
Yes. The magic is inside the wound.
[00:54:25] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:54:26] Speaker A: It's there. Gotta be willing to get in there to find it. I love that. Thank you.
[00:54:32] Speaker B: Thank you. Thank you.
[00:54:33] Speaker A: Thank you, everyone. On the next episode.
